0;00 how did it across my border I went to
0:02the india-pakistan border rangoon that
0:06were bangor the border is not a defined
0:13line it’s a mass of trees and bushes and
0:17and they were in water fair and these
0:21people who saw but not refugees from
0:25East Pakistan I can arrange a lot of
0:28influx of refugees into Pakistan if you
0:31like to come with me to East Pakistan I
0:32will show you how they are coming from
0:33India but they are not to come in and
0:35nor are my refugees going back with them
0:36you’re saying the people I saw coming
0:38with their kitchens and their houses on
0:40their heads and all their belongings
0:42with them were not refugees from
0:43Pakistan no my impression is President
0:48that and it seems we bonded shared by
0:49many other observers who visited the
0:51captain India but the Bengal is are
0:53leaving because they are they feel
0:55insecure because they feel that there is
0:57a persecution against them by the army
0:59which will continue now is it it is it
1:01in your thinking that they should be
1:02persecution against these people
1:07I think any government which would like
1:10to persecute their own people
1:14is nothing but exaggerated lies army has
1:19persecuted nobody army has tried to save
1:2370 million people of his Pakistan
1:26against armed rebels of his Pakistan who
1:30were excited and incited by new theory
1:33and philosophy of our league for
1:36secession the vast majority of Pakistan
1:40in East Pakistan have caved a sigh of
1:46relief that this trend and this movement
1:50and this agitation has stopped the color
1:52of our nation so you’re saying to your
1:54knowledge there has never been and there
1:56is is not Lucknow a selective policy of
1:59genocide of any kind in East Pakistan
2:00will certainly not the most common
2:03criticism against you abroad is that you
2:05are out of touch that you don’t know
2:07what’s going on in East Pakistan what is
2:09your comment on that huh well if a head
2:12of a state is out of touch with any part
2:14of his country I don’t think he has and
2:17it done right Romania that home state
2:18I’m a soldier basically and you know I’m
2:21not a politician
2:22I don’t want to stick to this job the
2:23moment I find our touch out of touch
2:26with my people I shall quit I’m not
2:28thought of touching people I know is
2:30Pakistan like the palm of my hand I’ve
2:32served there in many capacities I know
2:36is Pakistan more than least Pakistan is
2:38no themselves because they have got the
2:41facilities move around like I have so
2:44answer to your question is that I’m not
2:47out of touch I know exactly what’s
2:49happening and what’s more I have visited
2:52East Pakistan I will continue visiting
2:54is Pakistan and
2:56how come when you say out of touch I
3:00happen to be a head of a state
3:02consisting of 120 million people but I
3:07don’t claim that I I have gone and
3:09talked to every one of those hundred
3:11million people but the personal contact
3:16with individuals is not the only means
3:18of a head of state knowing what’s
3:19happening in this country just no doubt
3:21in your mind that all that’s going on
3:22there you know absolutely I am
3:33saw on my own TV two nights ago
3:38not a blood flowing in the streets of
3:40Aden
3:41I saw the Armed Forces playing for these
3:47civilians and I saw the civilians going
3:50for down forces made me wonder whether I
3:55was watching a scene in Pakistan or
3:57somebody else I was a short that was an
3:59Arlen
4:00so what do you people talk about army
4:04genocide an army repression the basic
4:09factor is that no government what’s his
4:11name will allow Allah sness no
4:15government versus name will allow this
4:18kind of
4:21brutal activities against their own
4:23people